Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

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Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Andyb » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:23 pm

To start this topic off I have put a link in from the history net which describes the race to seize Berchesgarden :thumbsup:

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On one of our later visits we came across these tunnels which are under one of the former SS baracks on the hill on the way to the eagles nest . The first pictures are of the former baracks

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels

Postby Andyb » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:42 pm

Here are photos from the tunnels . The entrance to the the tunnels is to the left of the building and just round the corner . Inside the tunnels is a large map of the vast network which is amazing. It is reported that Hitler wanted to make the mountain a fortress which would include lifts which would bring tanks up from inside the mountain to fire on the allies then disappear back inside

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels

Postby Andyb » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:45 pm

Just a few more . Hope you enjoyed :thumbsup:

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels

Postby Andyb » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:46 pm

Can anyone please Rota the pictures in the last set as they are looking down :-bd

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels

Postby Dave_Holden » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:44 pm

Excellent post Andy - I really got to get back there soon. No chance in the last year and a half, too busy working in France.

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels

Postby The Devils Bank » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:48 pm

I'm sure there are more tunnels that are undiscovered, just waiting one day to be "found"..

There is more to Berchesgarden than we now know, slowly but surely, these "forgotten" tunnels will come to light and open up new ideas/theories about the events of yesteryear.

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels

Postby Andyb » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:06 pm

Found this clip on the tunnels above which are now open to the public :thumbsup:

Descending into the basement of the hotel down a narrow stone spiral staircase, the first thing you will encounter are the old wood-lined SS cells. The surface of the tunnels begin around 250 feet under the ground. These passageways would have linked Bormann’s underground chambers directly to the Hitler’s rooms underneath the Berghof. Dripping with condensation, lined with stalactites and green mold, the air is chillingly cold and undisturbed. If the Reich had fallen, it was from here that the war would have been plotted while the rest of Germany burned. Security was paramount. At the end of each tunnel and stairwell, a further hidden chamber was built behind the wall, where an MG-42 heavy machine gun team lay in wait for intruders.

Further down into the heart of the mountain is a room with the tiled remains of a bathtub. This was the underground living quarters of Hitler’s bodyguard. The wall next to subterranean barracks is mostly and crudely bricked up. Scrawled on the wall in rough paint, “access to Hitler’s house and private rooms.” written by the owners to help intrepid explorers navigate the labyrinth of tunnels.

Harper has explored further into the miles of secret tunnels. Some, she says, have become waterlogged and decrepit through decades of neglect. Another Berchtesgaden resident, historian and film maker, Florian Beierl has completed extensive research and mapping of the underground lair, in conjunction with the Bavarian state government, tracking down and interviewing many of the original engineers and exploring its deepest depths for a book, Inside Hitler’s Mountain.

His work tells the story of Hitler’s secret mountain headquarters, and how when the U.S. Army first entered the Berghof bunker they found cellars of wine, champagne, hordes of silver and shelves full of works of art from the galleries of Europe. Many mementoes from the bunkers, including Hitler’s personal folio of Shakespeare found their way back to random mantlepieces back in America.

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Andyb » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:45 pm

Yes . There are miles and miles of untouched tunnels which may never be found .
Here are photos of the statue in the main square. We were luckily there when it was getting repaired and we asked nicely and we got our own little piece of history
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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Tailgunnerdownunder » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:49 am

Excellent piece of work there Andy. Amazing photos to people like me that read about these things but are a long way away. :thumbsup: much appreciated regards Mark

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Christopher Ailsby » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:25 am

Dear Andy, firstly GREAT to have you Back. Secondly another wonderful post. Stuff I had heard of but never contemplated or comprehended. Thank you for the time and the effort.

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Andyb » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:37 pm

I hope I don't get in trouble for this as it dosnt exist :-bd but I wanted to show you the complex system and the magnitude of these tunnels systems . Here we have a tunnel that runs from where Hitler had hid chancellry to the train station . It was built so Hitler and his top ranking staff could escape if need be to the station but also arrive at the station and travel to the chancellery without been seen . The tunnel is over a mile long .
As I mentioned it dosnt exist and we were not allowed to take pictures and the chancellery is now a private house with many many original artefacts still there.
Remember I am an old man with dementure and I am making this all up x_x

Here is the beautiful eagle with the Swastika removed

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And this house is opposite . This also was commandeered by a high ranking German official

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Andyb » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:45 pm

Thanks to google earth I can now and try and put it in respective . REMEMBER I AM TALKING 8-} and it dosnt exit :thumbsup:

The chancellery is at point A and the train station is at point B

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Here is the train station from above , the steel door to the tunnel is still there apparently :-?

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And here is the chancellery

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Postby Andyb » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:54 pm

And some photos of the beautiful train staion :-bd . You can still see the beautiful paintings and were the German writing has been removed

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Andyb » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:59 pm

Some more pictures and what was Hitler's private waiting room is now a Burger king x_x

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As you can see the eagle above the front door

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Tailgunnerdownunder » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:42 am

Great pictures Andy. Really enjoying this magical mystery tour mate :thumbsup: Regards Mark

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Andyb » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:36 am

Here We have Goerings tunnel which is to the right of the train station . Today the small bit of track between the tunnel and train station has been removed and steel doors replace the metal railings and it is just used for storage . In WW2 it was a different story as the tunnel housed a train and carriages containing looted Nazi treasures of all different shapes and sizes and items . As the Germans were on the run the train was left and the first people to reap its rewards were the locals then the allies .
I remember speaking to Dave and Robert who is the local antiques dealer and he mentioned that Berchesgarden has lots of hidden treasures as the old people who have them , know where they came from etc and do not speak about them or try and sell them, so they just sit in a room or attic gathering dust.
Then when the old people pass away and the house and items are left to the kids/ family they havnt got a clue what these items are and are not really interested , so they take them to Robert to sell .

Here is the google map picture showing the tunnel in relation to the station

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Andyb » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:42 am

Some more pictures of the tunnel . In the picture you can see the date and the fact that the swastika has been romoved

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Dave_Holden » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:06 pm

Excellent thread Andy :thumbsup: The house near the Berchtesgaden Chancellery belonged to Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel. You no doubt remember on our visit the wooden pagan chandelier taken from Heinrich Himmlers house and of course the period telephone still having Hermann Fegeleins extention on it - amazing priceless items :shock:

A few more to keep this thread going - the exit from the Berghof tunnel system, not often found as its tucked away below the road and you have to scramble down through the woods;
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Postby Dave_Holden » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:19 pm

Formally the Dietrich Eckart Hospital;
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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Dave_Holden » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:05 pm

Here is the excellent book by Florian Beierl (he is mentioned in one of Andys above posts) - I purchased this from the excellent small bookshop at the Berchtesgaden Railway Station a couple of years ago. There are still tunnels being discovered and I am sure the book will have to be revised as more are made public knowledge;
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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Andyb » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:23 pm

I bet that is a great read and imagine how many hidden tunnels there are still to be found :thumbsup: , plus love joy we never saw the hospital when we were there :eek:
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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Andyb » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:37 pm

Sorry the last photo above is from the massive coal bunkers

In 1940, to supply the buildings on the Obersalzberg of electricity and heat, a huge coal storage was built near Hitler’s Berghof, by Italian workers. The bunker was built against the slope of the mountain, under the Eagle’s nest, just opposite of Herman Göring’s residence. The costs went sky high when Martin Bormann decided that the facade of the bunker had to be done all over again for an amazing 77.000 Reichsmark in total.

The storage is 38 meters wide, 20 meters deep and about 20 meters high. With it’s huge proportions it could hold 10.000 cubic meters of coal, which is somewhere between 3,500 to 4,000 tons.

Delivery trucks dumped their loads through the roof of the storage bunker from the high road above. Smaller trucks could pick up their loads at the bottom from the storage and delivered the coal to various buildings of the complex. The main heating plant was situated at the SS barracks in the center field, but other buildings had their own heating systems as well, so there was a steady demand.

In 1945 the coal was set on fire, either by retreating SS troops or by advancing Allied soldiers. It burned from early May 1945 until October 1945, an astonishing half year long!

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Postby Dave_Holden » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:11 pm

The small tunnel is the escape from under where the Bormann House once stood. At the end of the wet passage is a staircase that is blocked by earth. Its rumoured the Coal Bunkers will be the next to be demolished as they are dangerous.

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Tailgunnerdownunder » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:14 pm

Very interesting indeed guys :thumbsup: continued high quality posts each time more information is added to this thread. Obviously I'm not the only one of this view judging by the view count. There is a message here for the continued success of this forum and that is that this type of thread is both of great interest and a valuable resource to many members of Broadsword. Perhaps even a point of difference over other similar competing forums. Regards Mark

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Postby The Devils Bank » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:37 pm

The more of these tunnels that you see here, just leaves more questions to be asked :cool:

It's just that one tunnel (waiting to be found) that could answer a lot of these questions, I'm sure it will be quite soon.

It's probably under water.. flooded.. :wink:

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Andyb » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:44 pm

Cheers Mark :thumbsup:
We now have Hitlers tea room , I found a great link and rather than copy the text etc I will add the link which has some great photos and post some original pictures as well . As it mentions in the bottom of the link , there is nothing left there anymore , just a few bricks etc but the view is amazing , it also takes some finding as it is down a beaten track

https://www.landmarkscout.com/hitlers-t ... ahnerkopf/

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Andyb » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:47 pm

A few more from the tea room

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby The Devils Bank » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:39 pm

Great video of the "Tea House"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bi48nQMSmk

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Postby Dave_Holden » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:52 pm

Keeping the thread going - here is of course Kehlsteinhaus (Eagles Nest) -the final picture below is a period photo from when AH owned the house;
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Postby Dave_Holden » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:03 pm

I have watched all of these films by Ruiter Productions Pete, they are just great and amazing time and effort put into their excellent production :thumbsup:

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Postby The Devils Bank » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:02 pm

I agree Dave, I could watch them all day long.

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Postby Tailgunnerdownunder » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:56 am

Thanks for the links guys :thumbsup: great viewing. Regards Mark

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Postby Andyb » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:33 pm

Here are a few more from the eagles nest and spooky , I pinched this from Pablo and added mine :thumbsup:

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The view from the nest which you can see lake Koenigssee

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The Brass elavator which takes you up to the nest

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Postby Andyb » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:40 pm

Just a few more so you can appreciate the views etc

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Postby Andyb » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:19 pm

A unusual topic we had whilst in Berchesgarden was about Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun Mercedes-Benz’s cars . Apparently Eva’s is still in Berchesgarden and in untouched condition , apparently after the war , the Berchesgarden police were short of cash so requisitioned Eva’s car for police business . When they were able to buy their own they auctioned her car at auction , where a local bought it . It was then passed down to his son who has bricked the car up in a garage so no one can see it , only a few people know where it is and I am afraid I am not one of them =))

It would be worth a small fortune , her are a few pics from ww2 Berchesgarden

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Postby Dave_Holden » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:26 pm

Excellent wartime photos Andy - I have not seen these before. I totally believe the Mercedes is there, as yet its not come to light. Its true it was given to the local police by the controlling US forces - this has come from a good source. Later passed onto a local and then to his crazy son.

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Postby Tailgunnerdownunder » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:47 pm

This is very intriguing about the missing car. If it's there it will turn up and then watch it take off in the media. They love this sort of stuff. Come to think of it so do I :lol: Regards Mark

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Postby Andyb » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:30 pm

Here are pictures from the remains of the Berghof , all there is a path and a retaining wall and bits of rubble etc , here is the Berghof in its prime

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Postby Andyb » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:40 pm

And here is what's left . On the 1st picture we are stood at the road where the road goes up to the house

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Postby Andyb » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:44 pm

If you look around you can still actually find pieces of the camo netting that was used to cover the house from air raids :-BD

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Postby Dave_Holden » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:38 am

I was watching the Yesterday Channel last night - a program about Hitlers Secret Ruins - Robert Brandner (for those of you who know him), was on it being interviewed about Eva Brauns dressing table :thumbsup:

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Postby The Devils Bank » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:16 pm

Very interesting thoughts and posts.

Berchtesgaden holds and hides so many secrets..

I'm sure this place will answer a lot of questions.

I do believe that Hitler came here from the Bunker.. time will tell.. :-??

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Postby resistanceunit » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:28 pm

Thanks for the pics Andy, certainly one of my favourite places, if I could book a one way trip tomorrow, I would..! :grin:

This documentary was recently shared on the WAF, and it needs adding here. I think one of your friends appears in it too Dave..!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3d9LZN ... L&index=12

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Postby Tailgunnerdownunder » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:23 pm

Outstanding documentary well worth a look thank you. Regards Mark

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Postby Dave_Holden » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:23 am

Thats the program Mark - thanks for the link.

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Postby Andyb » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:04 pm

To continue this threaded have pictures from the theatre . I tried finding some original pictures but couldn't find any.
The theatre was the largest in Europe in its time

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Postby Andyb » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:13 pm

Here are some of the beautiful buildings in the town

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Postby Andyb » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:17 pm

Some more

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby The Devils Bank » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:00 pm

Dave_Holden wrote:Here is the excellent book by Florian Beierl (he is mentioned in one of Andys above posts) - I purchased this from the excellent small bookshop at the Berchtesgaden Railway Station a couple of years ago. There are still tunnels being discovered and I am sure the book will have to be revised as more are made public knowledge;


Just received this Dave, should be a very interesting read.. :wink:

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Re: Berchesgarden tunnels and places of interest

Postby Tailgunnerdownunder » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:47 am

Thanks Andy for taking the time to post photos of the town for the benefit of those like myself that may never get to see it. Much appreciated :thumbsup: Regards Mark

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